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From: xx004@cleveland.Freenet.Edu (Atari SIG) Subject: Atari SIG: 26-Aug-90 #102 Date: Wed May 25 12:35:12 1994 - / \ / \ / \ / \ ___________/ \__________ \ / \ August 26,1990 Vol.I No.2 / \ / ______________________________________________|______________ /________________ __________-_____________/ /___|_|_|_________ CLEVELAND FREE-NET _________| |___________/ /____|_|_|_________ ________| |_________/ /____/__|__\________ ATARI SIG ________| |________/ /____/___|___\_______ ______| | | |_____/ /____________________________________________________________/ / / \ \ / / \ \ / / \ \ -___________________________________________________________- // ______ _______ \\ // / \ / \ \\ () /________\ ON-LINE NEWSLETTER /_________\ () /|| | ______ | | _______ | ||\ //_________||ATARI ||_________________________|| ATARI ||____________\\ -\|| || ST || || XE || ||/- \| ||______|| Supporting the ||_______|| |/ |\ /|________|\ /|_________| _/| ||\_ /____________\ Atari XE, XL, 800 | / || || \__| /|\ ___ | | |\___/| / || || _|____________| ST, STe, Mega, | ___________ ____ || || | \| ///////// | | __ | || || \ ____________ _ Stacy, Portfolio, |___________| | __ | || || |/////////// | \ |______/////| | __ | || |LLLLLLLL LLL| _ & Lynx systems |LLLLLLLLLLL| | __ | |LLLLLLLL LLL||'| |LLLLLLLLLLL| |____| |_[____]_____| - |__[_____]__| \_-/ (aka C.A.I.N. - Cleveland Atari Information Network) __________________________________________________________________________ 216/368-3888 | 300/1200/2400 bps | type 'Go Atari' at any menu __________________________________________________________________________ Atari SIG, P.O. Box 21815, Cleveland, Ohio, 44121 ___________________________________________________________________ Contents Words from the Editor...........................Len Stys Atari SIG Mini-Expo.............................Len Stys Responses from first Atari SIG Newsletter....... Blood, Sweat, and Smears........................Kevin Steele Computer Packages available in Europe........... Cleveland Free-Net Atari SIG related news....... SEX (Synchro Express) (Review)..................Scotty Meredith A recession/depression- will Atari survive?.....Len Stys Two different versions of the STe?.............. The Children of War Campaign....................Mark Leair & Joyce Brabner The Jin GOLDENImage Mouse (Review)..............Kevin Steele ______________________________________________________________________ Accessing Free-Net by Internet- IP address: "freenet-in-a.cwru.edu". ____________________________________________________________________ Sending Atari SIG e-mail from Compuserve or other systems through Internet: >INTERNET: email@example.com __________________________________________________________________________ Sending Atari SIG e-mail from BITNET systems usually found in colleges: xx004%cleveland.freenet.edu@cunyvm ______________________________________ Words from the Editor As you may have heard, the Atari SIG was going to and did have a Mini-Expo. Was it a success? What happened at the Mini-Expo? What would we do that we didn't do this year if we have another expo next year? All of these questions will be answered in a special Atari SIG Mini-Expo report in this newsletter. Also in this newsletter is going to be some information on why Atari shouldn't get frustrated yet over the upcoming depression that experts say we are headed for. We will have information on the new Atari STe and how there might actually be two versions of the same machine out in the U.S. - one that works and one that might be full of bugs- both being sold to you. We will give you information on some new things going on with Free-Net and how we can take advantage of Free-Net Version 2.2. A way to get around the lack of a file transfer section on the Atari SIG? It seems as if we have figured a way and two Atari SIGOps are organizing it. The Computers for Children of War campaign is taking off and we will have more information on that. A time, date, and channel to converse in multi-user chat for Atari users! Yes, multi-user chat is in place and we are taking advantage of it! We also have some reviews such as the one about SEX (not what you think) by Scotty Meredith. Also a reprint of a few articles by Kevin Steele from NOAH Newsnotes. Kevin is not only the editor of NOAH Newsnotes but he is also the Atari SIG's new SIGOp on Free-Net. As a writer and desk top publisher who needs a computer that can crank out diagrams and charts that look professional he has a lot of experience using the ST for professional use. He should be pretty helpful to anyone that has any questions on how powerful the ST is in a business. The Atari SIG users listed in the user directory on the SIG will be receiving a special version of this newsletter concerning some recent information released from Atari concerning Cleveland. And again- this newsletter promises to be yet another informative issue for Cleveland and U.S. Atari users. Len Stys ****************************************************************************** The Atari SIG Mini-Expo By Len Stys The Atari SIG Mini-Expo is now over and it was an expo that was very unique. Unlike other expos, the Atari SIG Mini-Expo didn't go to a motel or gymnasium and invite the public to come special for it, the expo went to where the public was going to be already. It was held during the Slavic Village Harvest Festival that was suppose to attract 100,000 people. Unfortunately, it rained a bit that weekend which not only drove a good number of people away but also Atari users as well. The main idea behind the expo was to get Atari users in the Greater Cleveland community together while also showing off some very nice Atari computing and Lynx equipment to the public who weren't aware of what Atari's could do outside the 2600. The Mini-Expo was publicized by Atari User Group newsletters (NOAH specifically), flyers, Z*Net Online Magazine, and surprisingly a subscribed Atari user group newsletter called NEO-STAG. All of these things promised great user attendance but many thought that the rain cancelled the festival thus cancelling the expo. The festival however wasn't cancelled and neither was the Mini-Expo. It did not even rain in the area of the festival as much as it did throughout the rest of the city. The expo was also located inside of a store so even even if it did rain bad, we wouldn't be effected by it. What went on at the Mini-Expo? We got to finally Lynx-Up with other Lynx owners which was pretty incredible and in my opinion - the Lynx is ahead of its time- way ahead. I believe even with NEC's Turbo Express around the corner, it still won't beat the Lynx in linking up with other systems. By the way, a good number of kids came down and played and played with the Lynx vowing that they would get one or ask for one from Santa. There were also ST and XE computers set up by myself, Scotty Meredith, Doug Wokoun, and John Dernar. There were two STes at the expo supplied by Len Olenik from a company called, "TGIA Computers" which stands for Thank Goodness It's an Atari! I think that title says it all. Len sold software and products at about 30% off or better than retail. He claims that he will match any price of any mail order so as long it isn't ridiculous. He also sold European magazines for only $9 with disk! Monitor stand power surge protectors for only $20! And special Mini-Expo deals on software at the cost of only $10 each! Len said that he will continue the 30% discount or better on software and special deals on hardware for Atari SIG users only. So if you are on the SIG's directory then I think you are about to save some money... His number is in the area code 216 but is still long distance so you must first dial a 1 then 336-2215 when calling. Please note that you should still support your local dealers but if you were going to buy mail order anyways, you may want to give him a call... He was the only vendor that cared to show up for the expo and we didn't charge him a vending fee. Overall, the Mini-Expo was a success. We showed people who came in the store what Atari's can do and they were glad they came by. The people that didn't make it are now hearing that it was pretty good and wish they came. Hundreds upon hundreds of people walked past the store front and looked through the window and read the signs stating ATARI COMPUTER DEMONSTRATIONS but did not come in. But by us being there and those signs being there, we made aware these people that Atari sells computers! We also had some pretty big poster signs (thanks to Mark Leair's sister, Sue) on top of the store stating Atari POWER Computing Demonstrations that could be seen down the street by thousands... The only real misfortune that we had was unexpected and that was several tents placed in front of the store in which the expo was in. These tents belonged to the street vendors of the festival and had never been placed there in the 12 years of the festival before. This blocked most of the store from view and many people weren't even aware that we were there. But overall, we had fun and the Atari users that did show up didn't leave disappointed. And the Atari vendor that showed up assured me that it was worth his time and effort and that the other dealers didn't know what they were missing- especially future customers. Will we do it again next year? You bet if the store is still vacant and if no one thinks of a better idea. We will also take care of some problems that we had this year. We will make sure that there is no obstruction in the way of the store front. We will have speakers on top of the store window playing the STe's stereo sound and perhaps even pass out some helium Atari balloons... ****************************************************************************** What people thought of the first Atari SIG Newsletter -Message #6 (47 is last): -Date: Tue Jun 19 19:39:24 1990 -From: af611@cleveland.Freenet.Edu (Anthony V. Fernando) -Subject: Re: Atari SIG Newsletter Vol.I No.1 -To: xx004@cleveland.Freenet.Edu When I first joined Free-Net, I ran an Atari 800 personal computer with 48k. About a year ago I got an 130XE. I'm supprised that Atari has begun to give up support of the Atari ST line. The ST quickly phased out the 8-bit Atari's. In short, I'm glad the Sig still exists. Anthony Fernando af611 -Message #7 (47 is last): -Date: Sat Jun 23 15:11:04 1990 -From: ac165@cleveland.Freenet.Edu (Robert R. Coulter) -Subject: Re: Atari SIG Newsletter Vol.I No.1 -To: xx004@cleveland.Freenet.Edu Thank you for the newsletter. I'm very strong into using the Atari for all my needs. In fact the school where I teach will be converting to the ST during the school year 1991 - 92. I've had an ST in my room, social studies, for three years now and other teachers began to realize the power of the ST. The computer teacher was so amazed that he began the process of converting. It took a lot of convincing to get the administration to approve the switch from Apples to Atari's. As of this year there are six ST's in our school and by the end of the upcoming year there will be about 15. Maybe sometime you might be able to start an educational column. If so, maybe I can be of help. I do have some educational software that I use in class. I'm always looking for more. Once again, thanks......... Bob Coulter ac165 -Message #8 (47 is last): -Date: Sun Jun 24 18:26:16 1990 -From: ae143@cleveland.Freenet.Edu (Mr. William H. Sindelar) -Subject: Re: Atari SIG Newsletter Vol.I No.1 -To: xx004@cleveland.Freenet.Edu I still own the ST and use it just about every day. I can see that you have done some homework and recruited a number of good people to help with this SIG. If you need any other help, just let me know. ****************************************************************************** Blood, Sweat, and Smears (or: How I Got Started in Atari DTP) Copyright 1990, by Kevin Steele. All Rights Reserved. (Reprinted from NOAH Newsnotes by author) Okay, so I finally did it--I quit my job and went Freelance on a full-time basis. This step was similar to stepping out of a 17th-story window on the assumption that someone below will just happen to have a safety net in their pocket, ready and eager to save your stupid skin. My previous jobs, namely thati] of Documentation Specialist and Technical Editor, had already introduced me to the wonderful world of publishing, and all of the erratic rules thereof. I was prepared for any potential publishing problem thrown my way, my head swelling with terms like 'pica,' 'keyline,' 'repro,' and 'kerning.' What I was not prepared for were things like project proposals, quarterly estimated taxes, and devious little things called 'penalty clauses' hidden deep within contracts. Well, to make things short, I managed to live through the experience, but after the smoke cleared, the problem still remained of how to equip my new 'Home Office' (actually, the second bedroom in my apartment) with all the necessary high-tech goodies and still somehow manage to eat on a semi-regular basis. Step one was buying a computer. I was once given some very good advice on buying a computer: first, figure out what it is you want to do with a computer, then find the software that will let you do what it is you want to do, then find the computer that runs the software that lets you do what you want to do. Quite a mouthful, but good advice nonetheless. When the time came to equip my home office with a computer, I took that maxim to heart. As a writer, I wanted a 'friendly' computer to primarily use for writing and desktop publishing--so I wanted a Macintosh, right? Wrong. My specialty is technical writing, and I had been trained on Ventura Publisher, which is a wonderful system for long documents. Okay, then, should I buy an IBM? I couldn't bring myself to buy one--I hated to have to give up all those wonderful Mac programs that have made it the top contender in the desktop publishing market. Should I buy both? This was completely out of the question, as I was on a very, very tight budget, and couldn't even afford to buy a basic Mac system, let alone both a Mac and an IBM computer. My solution? I bought an Atari Mega ST. To someone unfamiliar with the Atari ST, this step would have seemed like buying a Yugo because you couldn't decide between a Ferrari or a Porsche. Luckily, I knew better. Like the Volkswagen GTI, the ST packs a lot of power under an unassuming front. I bought the ST primarily because of the emulators available, as I had serious plans on using IBM and Macintosh software for business, and maybe, just maybe, using the computer in standard ST mode to play a few games. As of this date, I have yet to use an emulator for any serious business application. The reason I have sorely neglected my emulators is that the ST has met all of my writing and desktop publishing needs, and at a very reasonable cost. Sure, I could have gone out and bought Ventura Publisher, but why bother when an ST program like PageStream or Calamus meets my needs for $500-900 less? Like a bargain-hunter gone mad, I have found myself drawn again and again back to ST software over equivalent Mac and IBM software. The best part is, that quite often the ST version of a software package has features superior to the corresponding IBM or Mac version. For instance, take WordPerfect on the ST. It includes such 'revolutionary' features as drop-down menus, mouse control, and re-sizable windows. The latest version of WordPerfect on the IBM, namely 5.1, has just now added mouse-controlled menus, and it still doesn't offer the same versatility with windows as the ST version. Another desktop publishing package that has superior features to the corresponding IBM or Mac counterpart is PageStream. With PageStream, you can rotate text and graphics, work on up to six documents at the same time, and produce color separations with crop marks. You can do none of these with PageMaker. With impressive ST packages such as these, I have had no need to buy the pricier, less-powerful IBM or Mac equivalent. Since starting my writing career, my ST has been used to write manuals, articles, and stories; produce technical diagrams, maintain client lists, and track overdue invoices; and kill a few Dungeon Master baddies now and then (hey, all work and no play...). In all of these endeavors, I have managed to gain a detailed, nay, an intimate relationship with my software packages, and all of their associated bugs. Normally, a bug is nothing more than a minor annoyance. However, when your livelihood depends on your computer, each bug somehow suddenly manages to become a deep personal crisis. There's nothing like seeing two hours of work go 'poof!' the night before a project is due to help speed up the balding process, let me tell you from personal experience. Well, I hope that this article has helped to provide you with the 'big picture' on my background, and how I got started in the fun-filled world of Atari DTP. I've managed to make a living as a freelance writer with my Atari computer now for almost two years, and I see no reason that my ST and I can't continue working together for years to come. In the final analysis, the true acid test of a business computer is whether or not it can produce the kind of professional-caliber results that you require. The ST may not be considered a serious 'business computer' by most, but don't tell that to my Mega! ****************************************************************************** What computer packages are being sold in Europe? ***** 520 STfm Discovery Package ***** High quality, good value package based around the 520STfm computer including 512k RAM, 1MB Drive and built-in TV modulator. Also supplied is STOS Game Creator Carrier Command Space Harrier First BASIC Outrun Bomb Jack Neochrome Atari ST Tour plus "Discovering your Atari ST" book All for around $450 American money ******* 520STe Power Pack ******* Includes the latest 520STe with 1MB drive, joystick, mouse, user guide, 5 disks of public domain software, plus an incredible selection of chart-topping software (value of around $800 American money). Sofware List includes: R-Type Afterburner Double Dragon Super Hangon Space Harrier Overlander Pacmania Starglider Super Huey Eliminator Predator Bombjack outrun Bombuzal Xenon Guantlet II Black Lamp Starray Nebulus Stargoose First Music First Basic Organiser All for around $550 American money **** 1040STe Professional Package **** Superb starter package consisting of a 1040STe with an excellent selection of starter software. Pack includes: Kuma Wordprocessor Kuma Database Kuma Spreadsheet Kuma Business Graphics First BASIC Hyper Paint 'Prince' game STAC Adventure Creater All for around $750 American money - These seem pretty good but Atari isn't the only one selling packages. Here's a few from its rival- Commodore: ***** Flight of Fantasy - Amiga ***** Includes 512k RAM, 1MB disk drive, mouse, T.V. modulator, workbench software, Basic Language disk, F29 Retaliator, Rainbow Islands, Escape From The Planet Of The Robot Monsters. All for around $700 American money ****** Batman Pack - Amiga ****** Includes 512k RAM, 1 Mb Disk Drive, mouse, T.V. Modulator, Workbench software, Basic Language disk, Deluxe Paint II, Batman the Movie, New Zealand Story, Interceptor. All for around $700 American money ****************************************************************************** Cleveland Free-Net Atari SIG Related News ___Atari Conferencing using Multi-User Chat!___ _______________________________________________ The Atari SIG users will be chatting online every Sunday at 8:00PM on channel 1040. The multi-user chat has just been implemented on Free-Net and we are going to take advantage of it! Be there! ___Atari SIG founder retires as SIGOp___ ________________________________________ Jim Haynes, one of the first original Atarians and founder of the Atari SIG on Free-Net will no longer be a SIGOp for the Atari SIG. However, you will still see him around the Atari community and hopefully the Atari SIG. Thanks goes out to him especially for getting the ball rolling. ___File Transfer? On Free-Net?___ _________________________________ As you know, the Cleveland Free-Net does not have upload/download sections for computer users but individual file transfer has just been implemented. Scotty Meredith is working on an ST P.D. file list for Atari SIG users. Doug Wokoun is working on an 8-bit P.D. file list for Atari SIG users. If you see a file you want on the list, you would make a request for it to them and they will send it to you through file-mail. Also, if you have a file that you don't see on the list then you would send it to them through file-mail for them to place on the list and give to other users who may want it. When asked when they would complete their list, Scotty and Doug both stated that Free-Net will first have to increase the time the file stays in a person's account. It is presently at 1 day before deletion and that is really just too short. It needs to be there for at least several days. ___New Free-Net version goes on-line!___ ________________________________________ 1) Multi-User Chat NOTE: Due to the nature of multi-user communication (ie. lots of people typing at the same time) this program requires the use of a "smart" terminal. (for example vt52, vt100 or ANSI) 2) Kermit and Xmodem will be made available to everyone. This will allow you to upload and download files to your private work areas and transfer files among yourselves. Because there is a limited amount of disk space available there will be a limit on the size and number of files you can put in your work area. Also the files in your work area will be deleted after 24 hours. Due to security issues that we are not prepared to deal with, we will NOT provide a "public" area for the uploading/downloading of files at this time. 3) The ability to have your mail sent to another address. For those of you that have accounts on another system on Campus or on the Internet, you can have your Freenet mail sent to you there. 4) The ability to create private mailing lists. You will be able to create your own list of mail aliases so that you can mail to groups of people easily. 5) Minor additions to the news reader: o Search and backwards scrolling within news articles. o Marking articles as unread. 6) Improved Help files. 7) Database feature 8) SIG Directories installed ___Recent news now availabe on Free-Net daily___ ________________________________________________ <<< THE NPTN/UPI NEWS CENTER >>> 1 About the Electronic News 2 Almanac and Headlines 3 International News 4 U.S. National News 5 Editorials and Commentary 6 Special Reports 7 National Business News 8 The Sports Desk 9 UPI's "Today's People" Column 10 Entertainment 11 Health News 12 Education Today 13 Computer and Technology News 14 The Weekly "Tops" 15 Weather: Ohio and the U.S. 16 The Rest of the News... ------------------------------------------------ ___Atari SIG directory now installed___ _______________________________________ The Atari SIG directory of users is now installed and users listed are receiving special benefits such as discounts on software and hardware plus a special version of the Atari SIG's On-Line Newsletter. ****************************************************************************** Synchro Express Review by Scotty Meredith (C) 1990 I have owned an Atari ST for several years now. When the ST first came out, I heard how powerful it was. This machine can do it all! I saw the graphics, sound and all the other features that the original eight bit system could not match. After getting the system home, Unpacking it, and putting it all together, I was ready to "Unleash the power" of this fantastic machine. After buying some software to take advantage of the features, I ran in to a problem. There was no real disk copier that would back up these valued gems. How could this be??!! The eight bit line has a happy drive to copy ANY disk, and this new machine with all it's power does not? "It will only be a matter of time" I said to myself. "Surely with all that memory and power they will have something"! Finally, a program called ProCopy came along. ProCopy was fine, but with new software titles came new protection, witch lead to new ProCopy's. Soon there were a dozen versions of ProCopy. Another problem was, when you bought an older title (Don't laugh, I just bought Infocomm's The Witness last week!!) you would have to try each version of ProCopy until you found which version copied it. Contrary to popular belief, the latest version of ProCopy will not copy every title that older versions would. Micro League Baseball is another problem. I am not giving a course on how to pirate software, but Micro League Sport's Association has a really good method of copy protection. Before you ask, YES, I OWN THE ORIGINAL! I still have not sent my warranty card in..... But I do have a store-bought original. If you copy the disk, and load the copy, it works! or does it? Sometimes you can make it through a complete game with no problems, other times (95% of the time) you are'nt as lucky. Mid- way through the game, the scoreboard will say "WXYZZZ DOES NOT WORK!" and the players will run out of the stadium, out in to left field. It is disappointing to be throwing a no-hitter in the bottom of the ninth, and never know what would have happened. Then a friend introduced me to SEX. No, not the kind that teenage girls are discovering at a younger age, but SEX on the computer. How can you have Sex on a computer? The average male weighs 200 lbs. and the average female 120. That is 320 lbs!! Can the ST support all that weight??!! The fact is, I have had SEX on my computer for a couple of month's now, and it has never ran better! Even a backup copy of Micro League Baseball works! Ok, before I get the parent's of America sending me nasty letters, let me explain. SEX is short for Synchro EXpress. A new disk copier from Coast to Coast Technologies. The package comes with a disk, and a over-sized printer connector with a disk drive socket and a tail with a disk drive plug on it. I have heard of a similar device called the BLITZ cable, that you can make yourself. I cant bring myself around to believe that a disk copier that claims to copy it all, would be free (except for parts). I have had bad dreams about BLITZ, actually being a hardware virus. THIS IS NOT A FACT OR AN OPINION, IT IS ONLY A DREAM. I am not saying it is or is not, I just cant figure out, why someone would develop a product as wonderful as this, and release it for free. Getting back to SEX (sorry), Synchro Express. This is the disk copier I have been waiting for. I have only ran across one program that it would not back up. That being GUNSHIP. I don't know why, but I could not copy it. I even tried twice. but it DID copy dozens of other programs. The real advantage to SEX, is it does it FAST! A single sided disk is copied in 22 seconds. A double sided in 44. The destination disk does not even have to be formatted! I have two Indus disk drive's on my system, and it was something to see both track indicator meters displaying the same number all the way through the entire copy. As i Said, Synchro Express plugs in to both the printer and disk drive port of your ST. If you are one of the poor souls (like myself) that have the old 520, there is a problem. You plug Synchro in to the printer port, but the drive connector plugs in to the back of your second disk drive. In other words, you leave drive A plugged in to the back of your ST, Synchro plugs in to the back of drive A, and drive B plugs in to the back of Synchro. You have to set drive A on top of your computer (by the function keys). Since I do not make daily back- ups, I can live with this small inconvenience. If you have any other model ST, you have a relatively easy setup. The one problem I was disappointed to find out is, You can not leave Synchro connected. You will not be able to access drive B. If you do not use drive B for anything, you can leave it connected, but I have other uses for my second drive. All in all, Synchro is a great product. It works as advertised. Also included on the disk is a program to format your disk's to load quicker. I personally have not tested it. I am happy with the standard TOS format. If you have any questions on Synchro Express, you can write me at Internet: AA519@Cleveland.Freenet.edu. ***************************************************************************** A recession/depression will Atari survive? By Len Stys Ok, everyone? Ready for a recess? Oh, don't get depressed on me just because our economy is falling flat on its face! Atari's stock this Thursday dropped to an all time low of $2.50 a share! That is certainly one way to end a companies future in a country. But if I was Atari, I wouldn't get depressed over this just yet. You see, in playing the stock game, there are two pretty safe type of companies to invest in during a depression and that is a toy company and a candy company. The reason for this is because parents are usually willing to give up something that they want for what their children want even during a depression out of love. And children usually want candy and toys... And Atari does make an incredible toy but the question remains! Do parents love their children enough to dish out $179.95 on a video game unit especially when $179.95 will look like $1079.95 during the depression?? We'll have to see. But that certainly isn't my main hope for Atari! My main hope for Atari is the fact that they sell actual Macintosh and IBM look alikes (but are better of course) for about 2-3x less! Will a company buy one Macintosh or three STes during a depression especially when both do the same thing??? Will a company buy one IBM or three STes during a depression especially when both do the same thing? Or even 2 STes with IBM and Mac emulation? Atari can make money out of this depression if they play their cards right. During a depression, you play by different rules and Atari better be finding out what those will be. ****************************************************************************** Two different versions of the same machine? Two interesting things that were found out during the Mini-Expo that may be of interest to you. The first thing is that the STe was running the software version of PC-Ditto with about the speed of a regular IBM PC/XT! Yes, the new STe has speed and it has power. The only other thing that needed to give it some help was a program called Quick ST II by Branch Software. Who needs any PC hardware emulation with the new STe??? The next little fact that is "seemingly" the case and we have reason to believe is true is that there were two versions of the STe released. One version seems to have major compatible problems, DMA problems, and anything else that you can think of. This version may have been sold to some Atari dealers for a special low price since it is a bugged up version. The dealer then sells it to you for an amazingly low price (around $600) and you end up with a buggy computer while the dealers blame Atari. However, there is a fix disk you can get seperately which can help it with the software incompatible problem but the DMA problem still exists. The other version is a good version in which is being sold by Atari at a higher price tag (for around $700). This version seems to have no DMA problem and with the fix disk, no software compatible problem. We put the STes through the test at the Mini-Expo and it ran EVERY SINGLE TITLE! Believe it or not! So if you are thinking about buying an STe then you may want to (A) Bring a whole bunch of ST software and hardware with you to test on the machine. (B) Ask your dealer if he/she has found any problems with the machine. (C) Make sure the price tag isn't too low unless you have tested the machine out yourself and find nothing wrong with it. (D) Check with all Atari dealers' STes in your community to make sure you are getting the same computer from wherever you might buy it. (E) Do all the above- my best advice. Atari still hasn't confirmed if they will indeed replace all TOS 1.6 chips with TOS 1.62 so you will not need the fix disk. If you are an Atari dealer and have a buggy STe and figured all were alike then you might want to look into the fact that people are claiming bug free DMA STes and find out exactly what is going on. ****************************************************************************** The Children of War Constructed by Mark Leair from information provided by Joyce Brabner Every two years since 1984 young people from countries like South Africa, Isreal, Palestine, Cambodia, El Salvadore, Northern Ireland, and the U.S. get together to tour several American cities, and talk about what it's like to live in a war zone. This year's tour also included environmental disaster areas -- three Russian teenagers from Chernobyl, and kids caught up with the cycle of gang violence, from places like East L.A. and South Boston. (Why? Anywhere kids are being shot in the streets is considered a war zone.) What happened? Young people who have seen family or friends killed, who have themselves survived torture, or been imprisoned, who have had to flee their countries and start over as refugees, got the chance to ask other young people in the U.S. for help waging peace. They also formed very close friendships with each other during the tour. These friendships are very important. Someone from El Salvador, who lost family to death squads knows what it's like for a Cambodian teenager to live with memories of "the killing fields." A teenager of Palestinian student's hurt, when classmates make fun of the "terrorists!". An inner city gang member got his head put on straight after hanging out with two South African teenagers. What are we doing. Well, since the Children of War tours ever two years, many children are far away from these friendships they have established, and many times are back in the war zones that they have grown up in. To many of these children, a simple phone call is affordably impossible, and a simple letter either takes too long, or never is received by the addressee. In an effort to allow these friendships to continue, a very small group of people in Cleveland, which include members of the Cleveland Atari Information Network (C.A.I.N.) that runs the Atari SIG on Free-Net are putting together small-inexpensive Atari computer systems for these children to hook themselves into Peace*Net. Peace*Net is an international nonprofit computer system that people from all over the world can access from their homes via a telephone modem hook-up on their personal computers. How can you help? In order to subsidize the cost of these computer systems we are asking for donations. This can be in many forms. A cash donation of any amount can be mailed to the Children of War Project P.O. Box 21815 Cleveland, Oh 44121. Checks and mail-orders can be made payable to the Children of War. Lastly, any computer hardware donation will be considered. If you have any computer equipment (preferably Atari equipment, but other computer hardware will be considered) that you would like to donate you can send us a list to the address above or the Atari SIG telecommunication address located at the beginning of this newsletter. Please be sure to include your name, address, and telephone number. Donations are tax-deductable! Write to the above address for further details. ****************************************************************************** The Jin GOLDENImage Mouse Review by Kevin Steele (Reprinted from the NOAH Newsnotes by author) Mouse reviews have got to be some of the most subjective reviews in the computing community. I mean, if the mouse works as advertised, what else is left for the reviewer to comment on besides how the mouse "felt" during use? The mouse used by your ST is, by design, the main interface between you and your computer. How it feels when you use it can make a major difference in how well you "interface" with your computer. Ideally, the mouse should be "invisible" during use--that is, you should be able to concentrate on using the computer, and not be concerned with how you are handling the mouse. "pointing and clicking" with your mouse should be simple, intuitive, and almost second nature.OK^? Which mouse design appeals to you depends on what you hold to be important in a mouse. Since this is going to be a very subjective review, let me fill you in on what I find important in a mouse. First, the mouse should fit well in my hands. I like a smooth, sculpted design. Second, the buttons should be large (so I can hit them without feeling around for them), easy-to-click (I hate having to really push down a mouse button), and should have a solid, positive "click" feel when they are pressed (so when the computer doesn't respond to your double-clicks, you know it's the computer's fault and not yours). Third, the mouse should have a high tracking resolution. In simple english, this means that the mouse should be capable of tracking even very minute movements. It should also mean that the on-screen mouse cursor moves all the way across the screen without having to lift the mouse and reposition it on the mouse pad. The Jin Golden Image mouse fits all of these requirements, and also just so happens to be one stylish-looking piece of hardware. The mouse sports a zippy 280 dpi tracking resolution, meaning that very little movement is needed to send the cursor soaring across the screen. After the sluggish Atari mouse this may seem a bit hard to control, but after a week or so of using the Jin mouse, you'll find the Atari mouse unbearably lethargic. Unfortunately, the Jin mouse does not have a very high tracking speed, meaning that you may find the mouse cursor occasionally "going crazy" when you move the mouse too fast. (This problem is easily fixed by installing the Public Domain MACCELL2 mouse accelerator program, at the slow setting, into your AUTO folder.) The Jin mouse has very light, responsive mouse buttons with large tops. These buttons have a nice, solid click, making double-clicking a breeze. A six-foot cord was a bit much for my needs, however. The mouse doesn't come with any instruction manual (some would ask if a manual is even needed), but the Jin mouse does come with its own mouse pad, a small smooth-surfaced pad that I found let the mouse glide over it like a wet icecube. As you can tell, I've become rather enamored of the Jin GoldenIMAGE mouse. I'm not going to try and justify my feelings, as they are just that--feelings. I'd recommend you play around with this mouse a bit before you buy one. I'm fairly certain you'll like it, and since it retails for the same price as the Atari mouse ($49.95), it makes a wonderful replacement if your Atari mouse should ever scurry off to rodent heaven... ****************************************************************************** ______________________________________________________________________________ If you have any articles, reviews, product releases, or news that you wish to contribute to this newsletter, you are welcome to send them to us. We cannot guarantee that your contribution will be published in the next newsletter but probably will be. If you wish to send us a letter, or your contribution, you can send it to us by our U.S. mail address, Internet address, Bitnet address, or Free-Net address that can be found in the beginning of this newsletter. You will receive full credit for any contribution published. _____________________________________________________________________________ Cleveland Free-Net Atari SIG | Your Atari SIGops are: ____________________________ | | Phillip M. Chow, Mark Leair, Scotty Meredith, Newsletter (c) 1990 | Kevin Steele, Len Stys, and Doug Wokoun ____________________________________________________________________________ The Cleveland Free-Net Atari SIG Newsletter is a bi-monthly released publication covering the Cleveland Atari Community as well as nationally. Opinions and commentary included in this newsletter are that of the authors and do not reflect those of the Cleveland Free-Net Atari SIG in any way. The Cleveland Free-Net Atari SIG Newsletter is copyright 1990 by the Cleveland Free-Net Atari SIG. Any article included in this newsletter may be reprinted as long as they remain unedited and the Cleveland Free-Net Atari SIG, Issue Number, and author is included at the top of the article. 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