Z*Net: 26-Jul-91 #9131

From: Dave Churchill (ar473@cleveland.Freenet.Edu)
Date: 08/04/91-07:27:55 PM Z

From: ar473@cleveland.Freenet.Edu (Dave Churchill)
Subject: Z*Net: 26-Jul-91 #9131
Date: Sun Aug  4 19:27:55 1991

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                      "The Number One Atari Online"
                 Issue #91-31               July 26, 1991
                Copyright (c)1991, Rovac Industries, Inc.
                       Publisher/Editor: Ron Kovacs
                            Editor: John Nagy
              Terry Schreiber, Mike Schuetz, Bruce Hansford,
                  Jon Clarke, Mike Brown, Mike Mezaros,
                Ron Berinstein, Drew Kerr, and others....

         * COMPUSERVE: 75300,1642 * DELPHI: ZNET * GENIE: Z-NET *

        THE EDITORS DESK...............................Ron Kovacs
        THE Z*NET NEWSWIRE................................Z*Staff
        ATARI NEWS UPDATE...........................Press Release
        COMING TO TERMS 2 - JUDGEMENT DAY...............Drew Kerr
        QUICK-ST UPGRADE............................Press Release
        QUICK REVIEWS..........................AtariUser Magazine
        SILOHOUETTE VERSION 1.0.....................Press Release
        Z*NET PC ISSUE #11 CONTENTS.................Press Release
                             THE EDITORS DESK
                              by Ron Kovacs
 What a week locally!!  Terrific storms knock a tree on the Z*House and
 lightning decided to "Reach out and Touch" my NEW modem.  We are 
 swimming in numerous amounts of rain and the humidity is wonderful!
 Dom't you want to come to New Jersey now?  Sheesh!
 Last week I made some errors in my comments about the Pirating taking
 place in FNET.  I wasn't very specific and apologize for my failure to
 do so, I thought I was reading another online magazine when re-reading
 it later.  I am hard at work editing down the large amount of messages
 pertaining to the topic in the Z*Net (FNET) Conference.  Some of them
 are very interesting and will show you the mentality we are dealing
 with.  We are however, locating pirate nodes in the Z*Net sponsored
 conferences and deleting every single one of them.
 Last night I received a capture of phone phreaking, credit cards
 scams, and bomb making just to name a few.  I am stuck on just what to
 do with the information since it will probably be used my some
 unsuspecting person and I can't be comfortable with that.  As soon as I
 make a decision on this, I will share it with everyone.  If not the
 content and exact directions, at least perhaps some of the paragraphs.
 Here is a short listing of the nodes or BBS systems we have located in
 the 'Elite' conference capture.  Node 559, The Wharehouse; Node 350, The
 Bounty BBS, ST-Report Headquarters; Node 378, Little Lulu's; Node 474,
 Heaven and Hell; and Node 566, Kraftwerk.  Please note that these 
 systems appear in a capture of 'Elite' non-public conferences which 
 discuss piracy and cracking files.  There were no files found in the
 capture.  These are just a FEW of the 37 systems put together from the
 capture and will not be supported by Z*Net in the FNET system.  We are
 dropping all support and routes to these systems effective August 1,
 1991.  We encourage you to stop calling pirate boards today and 
 appreciate and feedback on these systems if we have listed them in 
 error.  It is not our intention to start a which hunt, but discussing 
 pirating of copyrighted software is not something we are going to
 support.  Stay tuned for more details and BBS listings soon.  The
 original capture is available on the Z*Net BBS is you would like to
 see these discussions for yourself.

                              Z*NET NEWSWIRE
 On Tuesday 7-23-91 Manny's Music In New York City hosted an Atari Day
 for on non-Midi applications for the Atari ST & Musicians.  The
 following companies were present; Goldleaf Publishing, STep Ahead
 Softeare, ISD, SoftLogic and of course Atari Corp's Mike Groh.  A better
 detailed report will appear next week here in Z*Net.
 In an effort to bring piracy under control within FNET, the FoReM inter-
 BBS network, the Z*Net BBS is sponsoring the Anti-Piracy Conference 
 which is available now.  The conference code is 40593 and it available
 to any FoReM BBS system not participating in the 'Elite" conferences
 currently under way in the network.  The 'Elite" conference are non-
 public, private conferences (message bases) openly discussing pirating 
 of Atari software.  The Z*Net BBS has been deleting nodes from the
 Magazine conference since the receipt of a capture from one of the host
 nodes in FNET.  Stay tuned for more information on this situation.
 Z*Net will be re-producing "pirate topic" discussions during the weeks
 ahead and will include what we are doing to fight piracy in the Atari
 Bob Brodie attended the weekend Atarifest hosted by Sheldon Winick in
 North Carolina last week.  Current estimates range between 400-500
 people attending along with seminars held by Brodie and ST-Reports
 RF Mariano.  See the report of the event by Bob Brodie in next weeks
 Z*Net.  Brodie is on his way to Indiana this weekend and will hopefully
 be kind enough to pass along his comments!
 Hydra announced the delivery of its ANDOR ONE product, a PC add-in board
 with associated software that allows IBM PCs and compatible to run Apple
 Macintosh software.  Andor One is a hardware and software package which
 combines the two predominant microcomputer standards into a single
 machine and works with all PCs ranging from XTs through 486s.  This new
 product allows a PC-committed corporation to experiment with the
 productivity of Macintosh software before committing to the purchase of
 a new family of computers and a new computer vendor.
 Epson has introduced an enhanced version of its LX-810 printer that
 features faster print speeds.  The LX-810, a narrow-carriage, 9-pin
 printer, produces up to 240 cps in draft mode, a 30 percent increase,
 and up to 48 cps in NLQ mode, a 60 percent increase.  The LX-810 has a
 suggested retail price of $269 and comes with a two-year limited

                            ATARI NEWS UPDATE
                              Press Release
 NEWS RELEASE           For Immediate Release
 Sunnyvale, California - 25 July 1991 - The Professional Systems Group,
 a division of Atari Computer Corporation, will kick-off the AEGIS
 Strategic Partner program at the AEGIS Symposium to be held August 5 and
 The AEGIS Strategic Partner program creates a unique relationship
 between Atari, its key resellers and its key developers.  This
 relationship nurtures the development of both vertical-market and cross-
 discipline solutions, resulting in a strong and effective national sales
 A key part of the AEGIS Strategic Partner program is the AEGIS
 Symposium, a clearinghouse for the ideas and information that create
 powerful vertical-market solutions.  The AEGIS Symposium is a two-day
 product training event with participation from both key resellers and
 key developers.
 The first AEGIS Symposium will be held August 5 and 6 at the Wyndham
 Garden Hotel in Sunnyvale, California and at the Cogswell Polytechnical
 College in Cupertino, California.  Over 50 computer and music sales,
 third-party software, and Atari representative personnel will be in
 Key software developers attending the AEGIS Symposium include:  C-Lab
 Software, Dr. T's Music Software, Hybrid Arts, Roland Corporation USA,
 Steinberg/Jones, Codehead Software, Goldleaf Publishing, Gribnif
 Software, ISD Marketing, Soft-logik Publishing and Step Ahead Software.

                   COMING TO TERMS 2 - "JUDGEMENT DAY"
                            by Drew Reid Kerr
 When we last left our stress-crazed hero, he was mind-boggled by how
 many terminal programs were available as public domain or retail
 software.  It seemed like everybody and his grandmother concocted a
 program ending with "term" meant to connect the lovely ST with your
 friendly local modem.  I mean, I heard rumors that our very own
 President of the United States was working on something called
 "BushTerm" but frankly I think one term is enough!
 Weeks have passed by and here is round two where I line up many of these
 term programs and watch'em go neck and neck with each other in the pit,
 scratching and biting.  As I mentioned in the first part of this epic,
 I'm not looking for complications that will take me more time to figure
 out what the hell is going on than actually being on-line.  Just give it
 to me quick and easy, so I don't even feel it.
 This issue's contestants:
 (previously known as HagTerm Elite; $39.95; until August 31, 1991,
 CompuServe.  GEnie and Delphi users can get it for $29.95; distributed
 by PDC 818-242-5692; programmed by Hagop D. Janoyan)
 Like the mothership landing in "Close Encounters," Stealth has arrived
 to save us mere mortals from further endangering ourselves with self-
 This program does everything except walk your dog.  It's got an easy
 graphic interface that divides the various sections of Stealth up: on-
 line screen, dialing section, and the word processor.  Need to compact
 or uncompact something quickly in LZH?  There's a nice little drawing of
 a disc that once clicked upon, will bring you right to the LZH programs.
 It takes a little time to set Stealth up but once you do, it works like
 a charm.  This includes uploading and downloading paths, XYZ protocol
 paths, sets of macros for each BBS, dialer information, etc.
 In the dialer section, for each BBS there is a "Setting" in which you
 save valuable information: emulation, stop bit, parity, etc.  Note that
 Stealth supports VT52, VT100, ANSI, and UBBS!  Under dialing method,
 make sure you click on "Auto Config" so the BBS will be dialed to its
 particularly-tailored setting.  Otherwise, it will use the general
 setting from the main screen.
 I had a little problem reaching CompuServe on Stealth -- all I got was
 garbage upon connection.  I emailed Hagop through GEnie (H.JANOYAN3) and
 he was quick with help.  Don't make the same mistake I did: remember to
 set CompuServe for even parity, 7 character bit!
 Hagop tells me that he originally provided PDC with a sample directory
 file for users, but it didn't appear on 1.0.  This file had Auto Logon
 information for both GEnie and CompuServe, plus some local BBS's.  All
 you had to do is put in your username and password in the correct fields
 and you'd be all set for Auto Logon.  Hopefully, PDC will put this on
 1.1, which will be complete by the time you read this.  Also, there is a
 setting for a built-in help function, but for some unexplained reason,
 it is not included.
 Version 1.1 will have new features such as: redefining all keyboard
 commands, append to text files, more multidial flexability, and
 different initiation strings for each BBS.
 Beware: for some reason, the guide to Stealth's script language is NOT
 in the manual but on the disk to be printed out.  And that print out
 runs to over 50-60 pages.  I hope this flaw is corrected.
 Also: the registration process for Stealth is like the ones you find on
 most computer games.  You know, on page 5, what is the 6th word in the
 2nd paragraph, etc., etc. C'mon!!!
 HAS: All emulations, script language, timers of all kind, chimes for
 every occasion, text editor, XYZ protocol.
 (Public Domain; by William Van Nesting Jr.; suggested price: $20-$30)
 This was my very first term program.  I took it from one of the British
 ST magazine cover disks and it's one of the best PD programs around.
 It's not perfect, mind you, but it's pleasing to the eye and friendlier
 than most other PD's.
 While the program has a history text file and an update as well, you'll
 find all the instruction you need in the program itself!  VanTerm has a
 built-in Help function that is crystal clear, not to mention keyboard
 shortcuts that make life much easier on the terminal screen.
 Directories hold 30 BBS's with all pertinent information and
 individualized settings.  There's only one set of macros to use with
 your function keys.  And the program only comes with X and Y protocols.
 If you are a Z-modem user, don't worry.  Put Alan Hamilton's XYZ.TTP in
 the VanTerm folder.  When you want to download, click on "Execute
 program," then XYZ.TTP, hit return and in it comes!  But note: you only
 DOWNLOAD using Z-modem, not upload.
 HAS: Built-in help function, keyboard shortcuts, individual directory
 settings, multi-dial, easy buffer manipulation, easy Y-modem batch
 DOES NOT HAVE: text editor, Z-modem (see above), script language.
 NOTE: I sent my shareware fee to William VanNesting address in
 Baltimore.  Nobody seems to know if he's still there.  He is on no major
 on-line service.  He made a real good PD term program and disappeared.
 We salute you, William VanNesting Jr.!

 (Antic Publishing; $19.95)
 I bought this after hearing how popular this program was and seeing how
 it was mentioned everywhere.  I took it home, opened it up, went through
 it and I have three words to say: WHAT A MESS!
 Why make things more complicated than they should be?  The manual comes
 enclosed in a loose cardboard folder that has no gripping power.
 Additional information must be printed off the disk.  You pay for this
 and it doesn't have Z-modem? (This last problem has been solved by the
 PD program Z Flash by J. Webb)
 Frankly, I never got anywhere with Flash and it's now gathering dust on
 a shelf somewhere.  The manual was unreadable.  The program itself was
 probably okay when it was first released way back when, but it is
 totally blown away by any retail term program today.  Most PD programs
 are easier to comprehend!
 GIMETERM (Graphic Interface Modem Environment)
 (Micro Creations 1-800-333-3963)
 This is the biggest term demo program you'll download from an on-line
 service!  I think the whole thing came in three parts and totally over
 15 minutes of download time.  In some places, that's the cost of a
 program itself!  The instructions print out to 32 pages, which is WAY
 TOO LONG for a demo!
 GimeTerm takes time to set up, like Stealth, but once it gets going, it
 functions nicely.  The standout feature of GimeTerm is its heavy
 graphical focus.  Not only is each function represented by a clever
 icon, but you can draw circles and rectangles and other neat objects to
 send to your buddies over the telephone lines!
 The demo gives you a pretty good idea of how elaborate GimeTerm is.  But
 unlike Flash, the interface makes logical sense, even upon first
 viewing.  The demo also comes with a text file explaining the program.
 It looks pretty good and may be worth checking out as a Stealth
 Beware: the GimeTerm demo will do *one* download and that's all!
 HAS: Z-modem, text editor, graphic-intensive interface, script language,
 desk utilities and four (count'em) buffers!
 Since my first review, I received e-mail from RMORROW on Delphi agreeing
 with my assessment of the ZC-Term demo: spelling errors galore, no
 explanations, clunky interface.  He also mentioned that he heard the
 full program itself is excellent.  My advice is: if the programmer wants
 to get that across, he should whip that demo into professional shape!
 Incidentally, I have only found the ZC-Term demo on Delphi.
 Yet, programmers keep marching on to create their own term masterpiece
 to share with the world.  Lately, I've seen a further update of ZTerm,
 something called Marconi (which looks okay except it makes my screen
 turn green), and another thing called Q-Dial (which is simple and
 I think if you are going to spend the time to create a term program,
 whether it be PD or retail, realize this: there's a GLUT out there.
 Almost every PD program has at least one good thing to say about it.
 But they're looking like a blur now.  DO SOMETHING DIFFERENT and you
 will get the response you seek, especially if you are in the shareware
 Originality makes you stand out from the crowd, folks.  One feature
 which I think more term programs should feature is the built-in help
 function, of which VanTerm 3.8's is a perfect example.  Thumbing through
 a non-indexed manual to answer a question about a specific feature is a
 pain in the hard drive.
 Now, if you are Joe or Joanne Consumer, which program do you use?  On
 the PD front, VanTerm 3.8 is a warhorse but it stands up quite well.  On
 the retail front, you get what you pay for.  Stealth is a real kick-butt
 program.  GimeTerm looks promising but one download a program does not
 make.  When the new Stalker comes out, John Nagy will give you the
 verdict on that one.
 Your best bet may be to learn on PD and then buy retail when you're
 experienced.  Then again, check out your friends and messages on
 bulletin boards.  Nothing beats word of mouth.

                             QUICK ST UPGRADE
                              Press Release
 Branch Always Software
 14150 N.E. 20th St. #302
 Bellevue, WA  98007
 July 24, 1991
 The Quick ST 3.0 Software Accelerator is now shipping to all users who
 ordered it or upgraded to it directly through us. Users in Canada and
 the U.S. should expect to have the disks arrive in the mail by the first
 week of August.  Due to delays beyond our control, the utilities disk
 and manuals will be mailed out later in August.
 Quick ST 3.0 includes support for all ST, STE, Mega ST, and TT
 computers, and supports all of the new TT graphics modes.  Typical text
 and graphics functions of TOS are 3 to 4 times faster when using Quick
 ST 3.0 than without, which means faster screen redraws and faster
 programs, whether on a 520ST running at 8MHz or a Mega STE running at
 On a TT, the combined power of the 68030 chip and Quick ST 3.0 results
 in text and graphics functions running 10 to 50 times faster than on a
 regular ST. Only Quick 3.0 speeds up all TT screen resolutions.
 Quick ST 3.0 beats Quick ST 2.2, Turbo ST 1.84, and NewVDI 1.0 in ALL
 categories of the QINDEX, SPEEDTST, and ZOOMTEST benchmark utilities.
 Users of these products wishing to upgrade to Quick ST 3.0 can do so by
 sending proof of ownership (a photocopy of your disk is fine) and the
 following upgrade fees:
       Quick ST 1.8, 2.0, 2.1, or 2.2        - $15
       Quick ST 2.2 (purchased after July 1) - $10
       ICD AdSpeed Quick ST                  - $15
       Turbo ST (any version)                - $20
       NewVDI (any version)                  - $20

 Quick ST 3.0 runs on all version of TOS (from 1.0 to 3.05) and requires
 about 50K of RAM.  A single .PRG file located in the AUTO folder of your
 boot disk is all that is required to add speed to your Atari!  Quick ST
 3.0 does not require separate versions for color or monochrome or
 Moniterm support as do other products.
 Quick ST 3.0 may be ordered new for only $34.95 U.S.  Please note that
 you will receive the program disk first, and then the utility disk and
 manual at a later date.  If you are concerned about memory usage, our
 Quick ST 2.2 accelerator is available for only $24.95 U.S.  It isn't
 quite as fast but it requires as little as 20K of RAM.

 For more information about Quick ST 3.0 or Quick ST 2.2, write for our
 free newsletter. Send a self addresses stamped envelope to: Branch
 Always Software, 14150 N.E. 20th St. #302, Bellevue, WA 98007

                                July 1991
 The following reviews are reprinted from the July 1991 ATARIUSER
 magazine by permission.  They may not be reprinted in any other form or
 publication without specific permission of Quill Publishing Co.
 Information and subscriptions to AtariUser are available: 113 W. College
 Street, Covina, CA 91723, phone 800-333-3567.
 PC Keyboard Adaptor

 Zubair Interfaces is one of several developers who are offering options
 to the generally lowly-regarded keyboards for 520/1040 STs.  The
 keyboard is attached to the rest of the computer, and many people would
 prefer a separate keyboard.  And on MEGA computers, most users agree
 that the detached keyboard just isn't very good.  Z-Keys lets you
 replace it with any standard PC keyboard, giving you your choice of
 touch and layout.
 Installing the Z-keys is very simple, though you'd never know it from
 the 3 pages of instructions that come with the unit.  Essentially, you
 remove the ST's plastic case (not the RF shield), unplug the keyboard
 cable and plug it into the Z-keys.  You then plug the Z-keys cable back
 into the place where the original keyboard was plugged in.  Put it all
 back together, plug the PC keyboard into its cable, and you're done.
 You do need to install a small keyboard driver program in your AUTO
 folder, but that's even easier than the hardware installation.
 And how does it work?  Very well, thank you.  Both the PC keyboard and
 the ST's original keyboard are active, in the case of a 520 or 1040.  Of
 course, there are some keys that don't exist on one keyboard or the
 other, but by in large, they are similar enough that the PC keyboard can
 substitute admirably for the ST's keyboard.  HELP and UNDO don't appear
 on the PC layout, but a software update is available free for all
 registered owners that re-maps them to F11 and F12.  Keyboard not
 included.  Z-Keys, $99.95 (adaptor for MEGA, $20), from Zubair
 Interfaces Inc., 5243B Paramount Blvd., Lakewood, CA  90712,
 213-408-6715                  - David N. Plotkin
 Software-Independent PC Keyboard Adaptor

 Like many users, I type nearly twice as fast on a PC keyboard as on an
 Atari keyboard.  Of several devices to attach a choice of keyboards to
 the Atari, only one operates without any resident driver software
 required.  The "Detached Extended Keyboard Adaptor" or D.E.K.A. from
 WuzTek/Omnimon Peripherals Inc. is completely self contained and needs
 no attention from you or your ST.  That means it always works, not just
 in ST mode, but in emulation of PC and Macintosh too.
 DEKA is a little box, a bit larger than an Atari mouse.  It has a jack
 for the line to the computer, one to the PC keyboard, plus joystick and
 mouse ports.  The joystick port can also be used for barcode readers
 that are set up for use on a PC.
 Using the DEKA is simple--just plug it in, and it works.  If you want to
 use it on an ST model that doesn't already feature a detached keyboard,
 simple adapters are available from WuzTek that just plug in where the
 normal keyboard does inside (any version), allowing the use of any Mega
 keyboard or the DEKA.
 Internal configuration switches allow selection of several settings for
 different type keyboards, but most of the aftermarket keyboards will
 work as pre-set.  Nearly every keyboard will work, although a very few
 may drain too much power from the Atari.
 Atari's odd keys - HELP and UNDO - are mapped by DEKA to function 11 and
 12.  PC's Page Up and Page Down are now "(" and ")".  NUM LOCK, SCROLL
 LOCK, and any extra keys do nothing in this version, and the keyboard
 indicator lights don't work.  Since the Atari doesn't use them, it's no
 surprise.  But it would be cute if all the PC keys worked as labeled
 when in PC emulation.  Maybe an option in a later version?
 An internal battery-backed real time clock is optional.  DEKA retails
 for $129.95 from WuzTek/Omnimon Peripherals Inc., One Technology Drive,
 Building 1E, Suite 301, Irvine, CA 92718.           - John Nagy
 D.A. Help Utility for DTP - ST, TT

 As a Calamus Desktop Publisher user, do you have difficulty with the
 icons or with looking stuff up in the manual?  Or, are you planning on
 buying Calamus but are put off by the long learning curve?  You might
 find the solution in CalAssistant, an on-line help desk accessory that
 you can use while working in Calamus.
 The titles that appear from the drop-down menu tie in to the top line
 icons within Calamus.  The Menu and Sub-Menu commands also relate
 directly with the Help Messages that appear in the upper-right of the
 Calamus screen.
 When you select a topic from CalAssistant, a Help Window appears.  This
 window will give a brief description of that topic.  At the bottom of
 this window, it tells you where to find additional help in the Calamus
 Owner's Manual.
 How much help is it?  Well, there are 600 some separate files in the
 CalAssistant system, each one a separate detail screen!  The manual
 wisely urges use only on a hard drive.  Also, operation in 1-meg RAM or
 less is not possible.  Although you can install the CalAssist accessory
 and peruse it without Calamus running in a smaller machine, its
 usefulness would be rather limited.
 The manual is sparse, but the program is simple enough to use.  Along
 with the program you get some tutorial CDK files, a complete Helvetica
 font set, and some PD utilities.
 CalAssistant is a very useful program for the beginner at Calamus.  It
 will shorten the learning curve needed to get you up to being a
 journeyman Calamus user.  Even if you consider yourself a seasoned
 Calamus user, CalAssistant will make a good quick reference guide, and a
 way to explore features of the program that you may have avoided.
 CalAssistant is not a product of ISD or anyone else directly involved
 with Calamus.  $34.95 from SPAR SYSTEMS, 381 Autumn Avenue, Brooklyn,
 NY 11208, 718-325-3169.                    - John King Tarpinian
 Desk Accessory Image Editor - ST, TT

 Imagine TouchUp from Migraph as a desk accessory.  That's what DTPaint
 aspires to.  DTPaint will load and edit IMG, DEGAS, and MacPaint files
 even while PageStream, Calamus or some other major application is
 running.  It can be convenient to add or remove details in a picture
 that you otherwise are ready to use in a desktop publishing program or
 other graphic application.
 Featuring a common but wide array of drawing a fill tools and brushes,
 along with editable fills and magnification, DTPaint handles quickly and
 loads and saves files much faster than some editors.  Any GDOS font can
 be used in a variety of sizes and styles.  "Lasso" and "jackknife" with
 clipboard-like block save and load, one level of undo, and resolution
 change and aspect ratio control complete the picture.
 On the down side, DTPaint only runs on monochrome monitors, although it
 will support the Moniterm.  It weighs in at 174K all by itself, and has
 a memory manager that will allow you to set buffer size.  Between
 DTPaint and a sizable image, you may have 500K or more tied up before
 you even think about running an application.  I don't see a point in
 using DTPaint in under 2 MEG of RAM.
 Worse, DTPaint has a few anomalies of operation that will annoy.  The
 documentation admits that you might lose the mouse, and has a function
 to find it.  Mouse buttons may react oddly within some applications.
 The "active" window concept allows the toolbox to appear every time you
 move the mouse out of the edit window--in practice, unnerving.  At least
 this feature can be turned off.
 While editing, DTPaint is as good as most and better than many image
 creation and editing systems.  If you have the need and the memory to
 spare, the intended scheme of use "within" major applications has unique
 appeal.  The problems are not crippling, and can be gotten used to.  At
 $49.95, DTPaint is a moderate value when compared to other paint
 programs.  A German import, distributed in the USA by Rimik Enterprises,
 836 Osborne Street, Vista, CA 92084.               -John Nagy
 Informer II
 A Database with a Look all it's Own

 What, another database?  Well, not exactly.  Informer II is a multiple
 table, semi-relational, data-graphics manager billed as being able to
 process internal and external data records as well as manipulating
 presentation graphics.  According to the manual, "Informer II's primary
 purpose is to visually and functionally, duplicate and enhance existing
 manual processes.  New and innovative applications requiring data-
 graphics management are now possible."
 Each database contains up to four independent or semi-relational tables,
 each table can contain 52 columns, columns may be up to 256 characters
 in length.  Each record may contain up to 9216 characters.  The size of
 a database is limited only by the memory of your machine.
 A nice feature is the ability to integrate graphics with text for a
 complete presentation.  You can import DEGAS, DEGAS Elite, NeoChrome or
 any "screen dump" image.  The program includes Snapshot for this
 purpose.  The program works in both color or monochrome.  "These graphic
 images can be selectively displayed at will by simple clicking on the
 name of the graphic image file from your data or using the File
 Selector...Images can be permanently affixed to the background of the
 date entry screen to replace a familiar data entry form."   With this
 ability you can design and print fill-in forms, custom reports and
 graphic oriented forms.

 Informer II seems to be a stable, competent execution and is easy to
 use.  Though the last couple years, Soft-Aware has improved the product
 steadily.  While its potential is high, users will have to decide for
 themselves just what need for graphics they have in a database.
 Registered owners get one free upgrade after purchase.  Informer II,
 $89.95 by Soft-Aware, Unlimited, 334 "B" North Euclid, Upland, CA 91786.
 - John King Tarpinian

                          SILHOUETTE VERSION 1.0
                              Press Release
 A Bit-Image and Vector Graphics Program with Auto-Tracing Feature
 Requirements: ST/TT system with at least 1 megabyte (2M recommended) of
 RAM.  ST high resolution on the ST or TT supported.  Please read the
 accompanying text file.
 Atari Users,
 Its ready but let me be the first to say (before Ralph or Ron, etc.)
 that its quite late in arriving.  My apologies and especially to a few
 that have patiently waited (your copies will be arriving in the mail).
 I wish Silhouette had been completed a year earlier.  I would have
 treated myself to a nice vacation.  As things stand now I look forward
 to catching up with some bills.
 Silhouette began as a project to create an auto-tracing program for the
 Atari ST.  In the course of developing the tracing algorithms I realized
 that there would not be a perfect solution, i.e. perfect auto-tracer,
 at least not within a reasonable amount of time.  Therefore, it was
 necessary to develop the auto-tracing routines around a drawing program
 that would allow the user to load bit images and prepare them for auto-
 tracing.  Also the ability to auto-trace and then spruce up the auto-
 trace would be of great value.  The result is a drawing program with
 some unique drawing features for creating bit image and vector graphics.
 The auto-tracing feature links the two graphic types together.
 The auto-tracing of Silhouette works best with line art.  It will not
 attempt to determine the type of fill patterns existing and then replace
 them with a vector graphics fill pattern.  Silhouette will auto-trace
 graphics and offer several degrees of variability in how it is
 processed.  One can output a raw trace which might be of value for very
 small objects or for objects with many horizontal and vertical lines.
 Or one can output an auto-trace with GEM 2.0 bezier curves which are
 loadable by the high-end desktop publishing programs.  Maxwell was
 approached by several sign-makers interested in a auto-tracer and with
 the bezier output, the auto-tracing function will be of great value.
 When spline auto-tracing is selected Silhouette will seek out the
 important points in the trace, points at corners or points that help
 define the curvatures of the image.
 Output of the auto-trace is sent directly into the vector graphics
 window along with a gray shaded bit-image of the trace area.  One can
 adjust the control points of the polylines or splines while referencing
 the bit-image in the background.  The polyline editing function was
 developed to speed up editing.  One can move from control point to point
 by simply hitting the keys 'Q' or 'E' and add or delete points with the
 keys 'A' or 'D'.
 You might find some of the operations in Silhouette unorthodox but in
 the short term you will find out why they work as they do.  Most every
 function begins with a single left mouse button click.  No need to
 maintain the mouse button down while drawing or editing.  This frees up
 the hand motion and allows for smoother motion of the mouse.  Operations
 are terminated with right mouse button click or by hitting the ESCAPE or
 UNDO key to cancel.  Objects in the raster or vector windows can be
 deleted with the ESCAPE or UNDO key too.  Movement of whole objects,
 while being drawn, is accomplished by depressing the left mouse button
 during the move.
 Let me describe the main features in version 1.0.
 Raw or splined auto-tracing with adjustable parameters.  Background bit-
 image display.
 Drawing tools
 clipper, freehand, line, polyline, circle, ellipse, elliptical arc,
 circular arc, polygons, stars, parabolas, spray can, text (supports FSM
 GDOS), pixel editor tool.
 B-splines, Bezier curves. Convert polylines into either splines and visa
 -versa.  Convert Circles or Ellipses into bezier curves (GEM 2.0
 format).  Multi-point or 4 point (GEM 2.0) beziers supported.
 Magnify the vector window image up to 16 times.  Drawing resolution
 achieves up to 3200 DPI.
 Input: Bit image formats IMG, DEGAS, TINY, MACPAINT.  Vector graphics
 GEM format.
 Output: Bit images as IMG files.  Vector graphics as GEM meta files or
 DXF universal CAD format.
 Two clip buffers for the raster (bit-image) graphics.  Separate cut and
 copy buffers for vector graphics.  Will accumulate copied or cut
 objects.  Clip buffers save to disk and can be re-loaded during future
 Duplicate, Reshape
 Duplicate vector objects in three ways (freehand, radial or cartesian).
 Reshape objects in several ways: size, stretch, free corner warp, skew
 (parallogram), skew (trapezoid).
 Rotate polyline objects to a 1/10th of a degree.
 Splice and Cut polylines.
 Object information is continuously updated on the information line while
 an object is being created.  The bit-image and vector window are size 
 100 page manual in a three ring binder and slip cover.
 Hardware Support
 Operates on the ST, STacy and TT.  1 megabyte required but 2 megabytes
 recommended.  ST high resolution supported on the ST and TT.
 Supports the old GDOS and new FSM GDOS.
 We are accepting orders now
 Silhouette is available directly from Maxwell CPU for $109.95 plus $5.00
 shipping (U.S. Post in U.S. and Canada).  Shipping by UPS overseas is
 available upon request.  We accept VISA and MASTERCARD or will ship COD
 or accept personal check.
 CALL:  (303)666-7754  between 8AM and 6PM(MST), Mondays-Saturdays.
 Special Offers
 Buy version 1.0 now for 109.95 before August 15th and upgrade to version
 1.5 (expected release date September 15, 1991) for $20.00.  The new
 features of version 1.5 will include:
 Object grouping, snapping to grid or guides, snapping to object(s)
 symmetry points, ruler system, additional auto-tracing features, iso-
 contouring of bit-images, output to Calamus file format.
 Enhanced DXF file output.  Conversion of all complex curves (elliptical
 arcs, parabolas, etc.) to bezier curves.  Duochrome (two color) video
 graphics support.
 Owners of Silhouette will be able to purchase direct the MicroSoft
 Windows version of Silhouette for 45% off the retail price.  Expected
 release date of December 1, 1991.

                      by Ron Berinstein, Pasta King
 It is true that summer time means vacations!  We at Software Shelf want
 you to be prepared to handle the additional stress, workload, and the
 hard to conquer challenges, that taking time off for a vacation usually
 present.  So, we here at the Shelf have taken some time off from our
 regularly scheduled activities to help you prepare for your time off.
 MATHQ2.LZH  a file that features MATH-QUIZ, might be the first logical
 step.  MATH-QUIZ is probably a program you shouldn't be without,
 especially if you have children.  First of all, you should be at least
 as good at math as your elementary student son or daughter.  Right?  And
 second, well, what if you have to do some fast fiquring with foreign
 currencies and your kids aren't there to help?  MATH-QUIZ isn't only a
 program to clue us in on what we have forgotten, it is our ticket to
 become prepared!  You remember that old Boy Scout oath, don't you?
 Plus, let your kids use it too, so that they as well will keep their
 skills alive and jumping during their summer break.  Runs in medium
 resolution and it's very easy to use (lucky for us!).  Freeware .....
 EXCHANGE.ARC   If your travel goals include Canada this summer take
 Exchange along with you and your Stacy, or, at least look it over before
 going.  This program will also be great for Canadian business people
 that accept US currency, as it will help employees to instantly convert
 US to Canadian currency.  Hmm, wonder what kind of ink I need to convert
 Canadian to US? <smile>  Many options...colour or mono. Freeware.
 WET_SEKA.ARC  In case it's been so long without a vacation for you and
 your significant other that you've forgotten some of the things you can
 do without even leaving the hotel, you might raise your anticipation
 level by watching this adult oriented GIF picture of Seka "having fun."
 Nah... Probably not necessary. <smile>
 SEX.LZH  If your home life is anything like mine is though you might
 find this file amusing.  Darlah (GEnie Atari section sysop) uploaded
 this to GEnie recently with the sidemark that it probably wasn't going
 to be exactly what you might expect of it, but, probably might be closer
 on second thought than you might like.  However, promised returns from
 this file include either enjoyment or frustration, or both!  COLOR/MONO/

 IMGVEWR2.LZH  Talking about viewing interesting pictures before leaving
 for a vacation, V.2 of IMVIEWER.PRG has been released and it now gives
 you the ability to view GEM COLOR .IMG files in the new ST/TT format (as
 well as B&W .IMG's) IMVEWR2.PRG replaces the original, which didn't read
 the ST/TT format.  IMGVEWR2.PRG will read the upcoming ST/TT format
 image-archives as well.  DOC file with instructions and full info on
 ST/TT format is included.
 LO_2_HI.ARC  gives those with only monochrome monitors a way to
 anticipate a great vacation as well!  It will allow them to view those
 special .SPC and .NEO low resolution pictures on their mono monitors!
 By the way, not that any of you asked, but my all time favorite "special
 .SPC" picture is contained in BEAUTY.ARC.
 SCRIPT.LZH  has a Script File Editor for creating .RUN files for use
 with SPSLIDE8.PRG and SPSLIDEX.PRG.  It supports both the Spectrum 512 
 formats (.SPC and .SPU) and the smooshed (.SPS) files.  If you are using
 SPSLIDE8.PRG, it also supports the embedded control codes.  Features
 Batch adding of file, merging of old files, and much more.  Docs
 MGWRITER.LZH  has just been recently posted.  It is an updated version
 of MagniWriter ST that was originally from the Sept. 1989 ST-Log.  Quad
 sized print in ST Low Res., but it will run in all ST and TT
 resolutions.  Files and format are compatible with ST Writer Elite.
 This program was primarily designed for folks that have low range vision
 and children.  The yellow text on the black background gives a high
 contrast to the text.  This, however does NOT work with TURBO ST.
 By the way...

 STWEDOCS.LZH  contains the docs for STWriter Writer Elite 4.2, printer
 driver creation files, and a help file.  STWMAN.TXT, contained in the 
 file, is set up for double column elite text.
 Well let's talk about Monitors and what we view on them.  Have we done
 that before?  Nah....  <smile>
 MONMAGIC.ARC contains the program called MONITOR MAGIC.  Monitor Magic
 will turn your colour monitor into a green or amber screen similar to an
 IBM's.  You decide what you desire and use this accessory to "make it
 so."  Freeware.
 N_CAPSLK.LZH  is no doubt the answer for many who would far prefer to
 watch .SPC pictures than try to remember how the 'caps lock' key is set.
 Monochrome only, but this little accessory posts a small box on your
 monitor screen's upper right hand corner to fill you in.
 And now in the center ring  <drum roll please>  let's bring out that
 serious ST Stuff for your Monitor Viewing pleasure! ...
 HL_DEMO.LZH  is the DEMO of HyperLINK, a multi-media/object oriented
 application generator featuring a set of sample applications, and also
 showing the Application Builder module with save/use features removed.
 Many features of HyperLINK are available to try, though database size
 and text editing is limited.  Minimum 1 Megabyte RAM required; Mono or
 Colour OK, ST/TT/STE.
 D150_200.ARC  has a program specifically written for those that wish to
 convert files from any version of DynaCADD, 1.50 to 1.84 inclusive, for
 importation into DynaCADD version 2.0.  It is simple and easy to use.
 DURACELL.LZH  is another of a series of computer animations by Wilton A.
 Vargas for Digital Magic Corp.(DM).  This is an animation created for
 Duracell Caribbean, Inc. intended for use as an in-house video for the
 sales department.  It's an animation in the traditional style.
 STARSHIP.LZH  This is a Lexicor FLM animation in TT-Medium resolution.
 It features an Enterprise-like starship with rotating engines flying
 over a grid, approaching and destroying a barrier, and approaching a
 giant skull.  It unarcs to 2.2 megs and requires Lexicor's FLM player or
 Prism Paint to view it.
 SHINY91.LZH  Shiny Bubbles 1991! An improved version of the original
 Shiny Bubbles.  It uses the 16 grey scale level of the STE sucessfully.
 Works on regular STs with 8 grey scales as well.  1 Mb RAM required
 though.  This file needs to be extracted with Quester's LHARC 2.0
 because it uses the LH5 compression method.
 And, while on the never solved subject of compression methods...
 XSHELL.LZH  a  shell that extracts and compresses, LZH, ARC, ZIP, ZOO,
 or what have you!  It does numerous other things as well.  This file
 contains ARC602, ARX, GUCK, LZH1321, LZSLHARC, PFXPAK, UNLZH, and
 ZOO.TTP along with a help file, the SFX utility, file find and instant
 guck.  These are all utilities to compress or extract in one fashion or
 another with this shell.  Also, if you have all the guck and LZH etc.
 that you might ever want, a sister file (much smaller) exists as well
 that just features the shell! 
 ELFBOOT2.ARC  is the latest revision of ELFBOOT, which now fully
 supports ALL TOS versions.  Use it in your AUTO folder and you'll be
 able to select desktop.inf files, choose programs to run, select desk
 accessories, select and/or re-order AUTO folder programs, select
 ASSIGN.SYS files, and fully control system colors and parameters.
 To keep the kids busy, so that you don't have to be busy with the kids..
 TRAFFIC.LZH features TRAFFIC, a game in which you try to direct
 automobile traffic through a crowded city with the fewest delays.
 Medium resolution, color only.
 BACKGAMM.ARC has an online version of backgammon for use with mono
 monitors, and lets you play it over the phone lines with a friend who
 also has a modem.  You can play against the computer if you wish, or set
 up custom games. Freeware.

 MDMZIIDC.ARC has the English translation of the MIDI Maze II
 documentation.  This file was captured from InterNet/UseNet.
 MAKAMAZ.LZH features the maze editor for use with MidiMaze. It will load
 existing mazes or simply create new ones.  It also features a random
 generation mode to start your mazes.  It runs in all 3 resolutions, and
 documentation is included.
 ATOMONIO.LZH contains a playable demo of the new Pysgnosis game;
 "Atomino."  Same is sort of a puzzle game having to do with molecules.
 Good graphics and sound.
 For those staying home this week prefering to exercise their right of
 free choice, and spend their summer time writing programs:
 ML6888.LZH has text and Modula-2 code showing how to use the Floating
 Point Processor in the TT.  The coding is for LONGREALs, extended
 precision reals, and can easily be read by a C programmer.
 SHOWSPEC.ARC  Object code modules for decompression and display of
 Spectrum pictures.  The modules can be executed from any program that
 passes parameters on the stack like in C.  They work in both medium and
 low resolution (color only).  Note: these modules can not be used as
 part of any commercial product without approval of Trio Engineering,
 inc.  [Taken from doc file.]

 COMPAN.ARC  GFA Companion, a tool for creating Dialog boxes, radio
 buttons, etc. with GFA Basic.  Archived, approx. 340K bytes,
 68K_2GFA.LZH   OK GFA fans, this one is specially suited for you GFA'rs
 learning assembly language.  It turns Machine code to it's GFA BASIC
 equivalent!  Say you want to add BASCODE.EXE to your .PRG, just pop it
 in this baby and merge what comes out.  (What will they do next?)
 POPUPGFA.LZH  has another GFA BASIC "goodie."  This is a little listing
 that makes "Pop-UP" menus in your GFA .PRG's easy.  They look great, can
 have up to 21 items and are a nice change.
 MENUBILD.ARC  Menu Builder makes menus in GFA BASIC.  All you do is run
 it, tell it what you want, and out pops a listing.  Merge it in and your
 And for those planning on writing essays, stories, and books...
 SHOWBOAT.ARC  is a Calamusized version of the public domain postscript
 type 1 font Showboat.  The font is too large to use with Calamus, so it
 has been split up into two seperate fonts.
 PREMIERC.LZH  is the complete Calamus font, Premier Lightline.
 Converted from a pd Mac font.  File also includes a Calamus .CDK file
 illustrating which letters are contained in the font.  Complete font,
 upper and lowercase.
 TIEMPO_L.ARC  a light face version in the Tiempo style to add to your
 RECODEPS.ARC  This file provides a sample of how to recode the ASCII
 mapping for a Postscript font in order to gain better compatibility
 with, for example, Pagestream.
 US_68030.ARC is the new version (1.4) of the Ultrascript loader.  It
 adds new status messages.  This file is designed to allow the Atari
 Laser Printer version of Ultrascript to function on a 68030 machine such
 as the TT030.
 C&P150.LZH  is version 1.50 of Cut & Paste, a GEM-based file splitting/
 concatenation utility.  This cleans up the code from version 1.0, making
 it a bit more resistant to general problems, and a bit more graceful,
 should it encounter insurmountable problems.
 MBOOK3.LZH  Make*A*Book will take ASCII files and output them in "Book
 Format" (four pages to a sheet of paper, 2 on each side) via UltraScript
 /Postscript code.  Supports pagination, Cover Page creation and more.
 New in Version 3.00F, is the support of ALL Postscript fonts you have
 installed in your system.
 And last, but not at all least.  Just how is your system working?  Does
 it need a vacation too?  Nah...  <smile>
 SYSMON10.ARC  is a great comprehensive system monitor.  It allows for
 viewing of most system variables, viewing of traps, TSR programs,
 accessories, memory locations, etc.  It is accessible by a keystroke
 from just about everywhere.  Use ARC602ST.TTP and one should note that
 this needs TOS 1.4 or BELOW to work.
 DISKSTAT.ARC   DC Disk Stat gives you a lot of disk structure
 information.  Sectors per track, total tracks, total sectors, etc. and
 more.  Easy-to-use GEM interface.  Runs as an accessory or a program.
 ST, STe and TT compatible, med. or high resolutions only.
 The above files were compiled by Ron Berinstein co-sysop CodeHead 
 Quarters BBS (213) 461-2095 from files that were either directly
 uploaded to CodeHead Quarters BBS, or downloaded from GEnie, Compuserve,
 and Delphi online services.

                  July 24, 1991               Issue #11
 Z*Net PC is a free, bi-weekly magazine in electronic (ASCII) format that
 features news, reviews, commentary, and other information of interest to
 users of IBM PC and compatible computers.

 >>>THE EDITOR'S DESK..........................................Ron Kovacs
 >>>Z*NET NEWSWIRE, PC EDITION................................Z*Net Staff

 The Latest Industry News and Events!

 *** IBM and Apple to Develop New Operating System, Platform
 *** COMPLETE Text of IBM-Apple Letter of Intent
 *** "Pink" - IBM and Apple's New Operating System
 *** Borland Merges With Ashton-Tate
 ... IBM to Bundle Multimedia Windows with PS/2's
 ... Microsoft to Distribute IBM's OS/2 2.0
 *** Mac Laptops Judged Most Satisfying
 ... IBM Joins PC Benchmark Standards Group
 ... Lotus 1-2-3 Migrates to HP Workstations
 ... Compaq Surpasses IBM, Becomes Number One in U.K.
 *** DRI Undercuts Microsoft in Soviet DOS Market
 ... Novell, DRI Announce Merger
 ... Seagate Cuts 1200 Employees
 *** IBM Buys Metaphor
 *** AMD 386 Chip Sales Up
 ... Sumo Introduces New CD-ROM Drive
 ... DeScribe Enters Windows Market
 ... Former DEC Employee Charged with Conspiracy
 *** "DOC SAVAGE" Sentenced in Sundevil Hacker Case
 *** Mac-In-DOS for Windows Reads Macintosh Diskettes
 *** 90 Megabyte Bernoulli Drive Debuts
 ... PC Insurance Now Available from Safeware
 *** Microsoft Involved in Mouse Patent Dispute
 ... SuperMac Has Fastest 8-bit Mac Color
 ... Electronic Mail Privacy "Upheld"
 *** Toshiba Considers Building ACE RISC Set
 ... NEC Releases New Color Laptop
 ... Commodore's 386SX Notebook PC
 *** Slotless 386SX Upgrade for 286 Owners
 ... More Companies Support Microsoft Pen Windows
 ... A Cray in Every Home?
 *** Apple Reports $53.1 Million Net Loss
 ... DataPro Introduces CD-ROM Information Services
 ... RAD Ships CD-ROM with 30 UNIX Applications
 ... AutoCAD for New HP Apollo RISC Workstation
 *** Lightning's 50Mhz 486DX PC's
 *** Lotus Updates 1-2-3 to Release 3.1+

 Crescent has released QuickPak Pro for Windows and PDQComm, two new
 development products for use with Microsoft Visual Basic.

 >>>THE GRAPHICAL EDGE.......................................Mike Mezaros
 *** What Does The IBM-Apple Agreement REALLY Mean?
 ... Microsoft Visual Basic
 *** IN FULL: The alleged BILL GATES MEMO that has rocked the industry!

 >>>VISUAL BASIC RUNFIX APP...............Jack McKinley with Mike Mezaros
 "RunFix," a simple, small Visual Basic application which iconizes and
 restores the Program Manager, is examined.  Includes full source code!

 >>>HOTWIN 2.0..............................................Press Release
 This press release from Abacist Software about HotWin is interesting in
 and of itself.  What makes it even MORE interesting is the Z*Net News
 Service Special Report later on in this issue!

 >>>MICROGRAFX CHARISMA 2.1.................................Press Release
 The popular business graphics package has been upgraded! Find out about
 all of Charisma's exciting new features.

 >>>PORTFOLIO USERS UPDATE...................................B.J. Gleason
 The ups-and-downs of file transfers on Atari's pocket-sized MS-DOS
 command compatible personal computer.  Explains transferring to and from
 IBM PC, Apple Macintosh, and Atari ST machines.

 >>>VMIX 386 MULTITASKING SYSTEM.............................News Release
 Need multitasking on a budget? VMiX 386 might be for you. This DesqView
 style multitasker and task-switcher is available as shareware, and has
 just been updated to release 2.62.

 This news release from IBM's corporate headquarters answers a total of
 23 questions about IBM and Apple's newly formed working relationship.

 >>>VENTURA PUBLISHER "GOLD MINE"...........................Press Release
 Ventura is now providing incentives, some valued at more than $700, for
 purchasers of Ventura Publisher.  DOS, Windows, OS/2, and Macintosh
 versions are covered.

 >>>FULLY POWERED WINDOWS...................................Jack McKinley
 An in-depth review of Burton L. Alperson's new book "Fully Powered
 Windows." Jack tells you why you should - or shouldn't - buy this new

 >>>Z*NET NEWS SERVICE SPECIAL REPORT....................................
 Apparently, the makers of HotWin are threatening to sue David Stafford,
 author of the popular program Launch, for copyright infringement.  The
 interesting twist: HotWin is a commercial product. Launch is a shareware
 program, which allegedly pre-dates HotWin by more than a year.
 Information is still sketchy at this time, but it appears that this
 incident may threaten shareware as we know it.

 >>>PD/SHAREWARE SHELF...................................................
 Which files are worth downloading? Z*Net PC lists 43 contenders!
 Compiled from GEnie and CompuServe.

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